Peugeot Re: 405 Mi 16 car stereo issues

From: Dick Sears (SearsD@BioTek.com)
Date: Wed 11 Dec 2002 - 09:19:25 EST

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    Doh! That's what I get for figgerin' in my head late in the work day.

    4/3 = 1.333, not 1.667.

    Most modern aftermarket amps specify 2 ohms as the low limit for
    impedance per channel. I certainly wouldn't trust a factory radio to
    go lower than that with impunity.

    -Dick

    89 Mi16
    85 Alliance ragtop
    87 GTA ragtop
    (and, um, 93 Saab 9000CS)

    All with aftermarket sound - we like it top-down and cranked!

    --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne Burton" <wburton@t...> wrote:
    > Actually the formula is almost right. it should be (r1*r2) /
    (r1+r2) = Rc1 then Rc1 * r3 / (rc1 + r3)
    > thus 4 * 4 = 16 / 8 = 2
    > then 2 * 4 = 8 / 6 = 1.3333333
    > Since the current is split equally at each division, the current
    must be calculated for each division separately, no matter how many
    are in parallel. If there are more than 3 sets, there is another
    formula which is easier
    >
    > No IC stereo amplifier can handle this impedence for very long,
    especially in a car stereo because of the current limitations of the
    IC design. Discrete component amps, are better able to deal with
    this, but are quite high end nowadays.
    >
    > Impedence can NEVER increase in parallel circuits.
    >
    > Wayne Burtn
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: fred smith
    > To: SearsD@B...
    > Cc: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:06 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: 405 Mi 16 car stereo issues
    >
    >
    > We may need Jim L. to decide this one.
    >
    > The formula for parallel impedance is: r1 times r2 divided by r1
    plus r2.
    > I've never heard it expressed for three impedances, so I'm not
    sure if
    > this formula would still hold true.
    >
    > If it is correct to extend it, it would be thus: r1 times r2
    times r3
    > divided by r1 plus r2 plus r3. That would be 4 times 4 times 4
    (64)
    > divided by 4 plus 4 plus 4 (12) = 5.333. Most amps would have no
    real
    > problem with that.
    >
    > Dr. Bose? Anyone?
    >
    > fs
    > (I am not an electronics engineer, I merely play one on the
    Internet.)
    >
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:01:40 -0000 "Dick Sears <SearsD@B...>"
    > <SearsD@B...> writes:
    > >Just be aware that if you wire the new tweeters as described
    below,
    > >you'll have 3 speakers in parallel (including the door speakers)
    on
    > >the same channel. At 4 ohm impedance per speaker (standard for
    car
    > >audio), that works out to about 1.7 ohms impedance per channel.
    I'm
    > >not sure about the Alpine factory head unit, but many amplifiers
    > >won't handle such low impedance happily. To be on the safe
    side, you
    > >
    > >might just want to replace the old tweeters with the new ones.
    >
    >
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