Re: 81 504 TD: EXCESS air in coolant system & high pressure HELP!

From: Dan Midtdal (midvally@home.com)
Date: Sat 15 Apr 2000 - 02:00:31 UTC

  • Next message: Philippe Brunelle: "Re: 81 504 TD: EXCESS air in coolant system & high pressure HELP!"

    I have replaced quite a number of heads and gaskets and have never replaced
    head bolts, but Peugeot does recommend replacing the washers. The really
    important thing is to retorque in exactly the order that Peugeot recommends.
    It helps if you have the obstruction wrench that fits as it avoids taking
    the valve train off each time to get at those bolts placed ever so
    conveniently under the valve train. I agree that the xd2 is more prone to
    head gasket problems, the xd2t seems much better with additional
    strengthening and higher grade of bolt. Yes it will get worse and when it
    does go it will not be pleasant and additional damage is highly likely.

    good luck.

    Dan
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    From: Senen Racki <senen@cgocable.net>
    To: PUG List <peugeot-l@egroups.com>; Ivo Nezic-Degrel
    <nezic_ivo@softhome.net>
    Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 1:03 PM
    Subject: Re: 81 504 TD: EXCESS air in coolant system & high
    pressure HELP!

    > It's probably the head gasket. That is a very common problem on the XD2
    > engines, especially the turbo ones. If you don't have any smoke then the
    > gasket is just beginning to let go. It will get worse, especially with
    the
    > hot weather coming. I'd treat it as soon as possible. Plan ahead and
    order
    > the gasket asap so that you have everything you need to do the work (it
    may
    > take some time to get a gasket, and plan on at least $140CDN for it
    alone).
    > Although the official procedure is to replace the head bolts when changing
    > the gasket, you should be ok. Peugeot designed the bolts to stretch when
    > torqued, so when you remove the bolts just double-check that the
    stretching
    > isn't excessive. I put new ones on the last time I changed the head
    gasket
    > on your car. Hopefully you won't have to incur the cost of yet another
    set.
    >
    > Senen.
    >
    >
    > From: "Ivo Nezic-Degrel" <nezic_ivo@softhome.net>
    > To: "PUG List" <peugeot-l@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:39 PM
    > Subject: [Peugeot] 81 504 TD: EXCESS air in coolant system & high pressure
    > HELP!
    >
    >
    > > Last week I noticed that my 81 504 TD (2.3L) was letting off steam like
    > crazy from the expansion tank cap. I figured it was because the weather
    had
    > gotten warmer and maybe the water pump was going... Right after turning on
    > the engine I probed around and noticed it wasn't hot, yet air was escaping
    > from the expansion tank cap and the hoses were under a lot of pressure. I
    > checked all hoses for obstructions, blew the radiator out and found no
    > obstructions, even checked out the water pump and re-tightened the belt,
    yet
    > the problem is still there! The engine runs and sound perfect, no coughing
    > or shaking, no misfires, no smoke. I just can't figure out where this air
    is
    > coming from!
    > >
    > > The only thing I can think of it that there's a tiny crack in the block
    or
    > head, and the gas from a cylinder is entering the cooling system, or maybe
    > the head gasket is leaking, with the same effect as above...
    > >
    > > I even re-torqued the head for good measure...
    > >
    > > I am considering treating the engine with some Engine Weld, or other
    such
    > product and if it is a crack I'll see if it helps...
    > >
    > >
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