Re: bleeding ABS brakes and more

presslaff/bruce (yaleav@autobahn.mb.ca)
Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:45:52 -0500

>Too late, I allready turned the bleed screw. Again, the car is a 1987 505
>STI V6 with ABS for those new to the list.
>In the past on other vehical with master cylinders I would always pump the
>brake pedal while my brother jacked with the bleed screw.
>This is the first ABS car I have owned, so I am not to sure on what to do.
>When I first started it up, the brake pedal would go almost to the floor
>while the ABS unit was pumping up. Then I drove the car for a few miles
>(isolated streets, no children,pets,pickup-trucks) and noticed the pedal
>action became firmer. Should I even mess with it now? It feels okay. Does
>the ABS system remove air from the lines? If it does not, could the air
>damage it in anyway? Like I said, this is a whole new exciting world for
>me, so any suggestions would be great.
>One other thing, I documented the front brake job with my brother's Casio
>Digital Camera. I would like to include this on my webpage. I am looking
>into several ways that I can display this. One would be to make it a
>PowerPoint presentation. I think the latest version allows you to save it
>in a format that you can put on a web page. If I can get it to work the
>way I want it to, then expect more to come. I think that this could be a
>fantastic tool to all of us who need a more visual description of what to
>do, and it also would allow us to see the mechanical makeup of our fellow
>Peugeot owners cars.
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>BTW, I went to a nightclub last night that had WebTV. I brought up several
>of the "Owners" Peugeot pages including mine. I was hit by many questions
>about Peugeots. Most people did not know about them and where interested
>in learning what the car was like, and how cheap one could by one now for.
>Nothing like a little Guerrilla Orphan Marketing.
>
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>> You don't need to undo the bleeder screw to change the pads. Just use a
>> caliper compressor or c-clamp to turn it back. This eliminates the need
>> for bleeding. You shouldn't see the light come on unless there is a
>> problem with the system. Justin
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Not so fast!!!!!
With a non ABS system it can be fatal for a master cylinder to have a large
quantity of brake fluid pushed throught it backwards by pushing the piston
back in w/o opening the bleed screw . I know several mechanics who no
longer follow this questionable practice. Furthermore if you changed your
brake fluid completely every time you changed your pads it wouldn't be
often enough . Manufacturers recommend a complete change ever 2 years on
conventional systems , I don't think I could sleep at night knowing the
dredded black scuz and moisture were having a party inside my $2000 ABS
master control cylinder.

Bob Bruce Loaded with Peugeots none with ABS,so far.