PRV-6 Info

Charles R. Lincoln (clincoln@SpiritOne.com)
Thu, 31 Jul 97 16:43:06 -0700

Since there has been interest on the list re PRV-6 engine, if anyone
wishes I can try to be alert for PRV-6 information on the Volvo list. I
can either forward to the whole Peugeot list, or those interested send me
your email address and I'll just forward to that group. Following are
two messages presented as an example:

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Date: 07/31 10:07 AM
Received: 07/31 11:22 AM
From: RANDALL YANG, RANDALL_YANG@usccmail.lehman.com
Reply-To: swedishbricks, swedishbricks@shore.net

RANDALL_YANG@usccmail.lehman.com (RANDALL YANG) via
SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

There is a metal gasket between each header and the downpipe. The
200's used 15mm nuts to fasten, I believe 700's are the same.

Randall
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Subject: PRV-6 parts question
Author: Volvo@suaviter.demon.co.uk (Stefan Schulz) at usccmail
Date: 7/30/97 7:13 PM

Volvo@suaviter.demon.co.uk (Stefan Schulz) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET
writes :
What type of gasketing or jointing does the PRV-6 use between the
exhaust manifolds and the downpipe ? Olives, dry gasket, jointing
compound, a combination of the above ?

The shop that fitted the downpipe didn't get it right on second attempt
either, so I'll do it myself now.

UK residents are welcome to mail me for the name of the garage in
Peterborough who is at fault so they can avoid them ;-(

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Date: 02/19 6:56 AM
From: Tim Takahashi, tim@ptw.com
Reply-To: swedishbricks, swedishbricks@shore.net
Subject: Re: So what IS wrong with the PRV 6?

Tim Takahashi <tim@ptw.com> via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

Steve MacSween writes :
>>I find it interesting that (correct me if my memory flags, here) NOT ONE
>>PRV owner responded to this thread and shared their agony over the
>>ownership of this engine.

Danny Halamish <dny@videologic.com> via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
>Fair enough. But do give a reason or an example - I had three. And please
>don't take any of this personally - it wasn't meant to be.

>No, they didn't, but those agonies HAVE been heard before... Take a peek at
>http://infoweb.magi.com/~cvolvo/camclinc.html
>
>Extract from what they say about inline 4 water pump removal:
>"This job can be easily performed in an afternoon providing you have all of
>the parts on hand. "
>
>Extract from what they say about PRV V-6 water pump removal:
>"If you don't have several days to spare or are faint of heart, have your
>favorite garage perform the water pump replacement"

Which is completely bogus. The last time I did the V6 waterpump, it
took 4 hours... the intake manifold did not have to be removed, and
that included some severe struggling with a rusted fan retaining bolt
(something which also occurs with 4-cylinder water pumps).

As for the V6, properly maintained V6s are :

- smooth running (yes, even at idle - despite "odd fire")
- reliable
- durable
- adequately servicable (preferable to a Volvo Turbo, IMHO)

In over 200,000 miles, my V6 was on its :
- original starter
- original timing chains
- 2nd radiator
- 2nd set of injector seals
- 4th valve adjustment
- 4th distributor cap and rotor
- 4th water pump (2 water pumps lasted 90,000 miles, 1 15,000 miles)
the short lived water pump was damaged when the fan got friendly
with the radiator.
- 3rd thermostat (changed preventatively with each waterpump)
- 5th oxygen sensor
- 6th set of spark plugs
- 75th oil change
- 75th oil filter

A *FAR* more productive use of net-bandwidth might be attained
by asking those experienced with V6s for advice on performing
a water pump service.

And even if some of these items were extraordinarily hard to
service, they are extremely infrequent service items.

>The thing is, an engine is the heart of a car. I don't see the point of
>paying the price of a Volvo, and then driving a Renault. Or Peugeot.

I do have a problem with muckracking, and that is what is being done
here. V6 Peugeots, whether you like them or not, are sucessful
executive class automobiles in europe.

> Danny
> dny@videologic.com
> '86 764TI, a well-designed car with a well-designed engine: B230.

Ug.

(not-so-serious Muckraking will follow)

Let's see, you drive a car that iPd calls "the model that almost sank
the company" and a model year with admittedly undersized engined
bearings, and is a real pain to change the engine oil, and is
equipped with a turbo which is prone to fail, and......

-tim

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Tim Takahashi tim@ptw.com
Swedishbricks Enthusiast and Net Administrator tyrant@shore.net

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- Charlie