RE: 505/Sunroof

N003 LCDR Raymond C O'Donnell (ODonnellRC@clf.navy.mil)
Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:42:50 -0400

Finley. No real problem. As you have a hum, electrical is probably
fine. One of two things have happened; the cable jammed or the cable
sheath broke. (Most likely).

The first thing I would do is to see if the motor is actually moving the
cable. It is located in the trunk behind the drivers' quarter panel
cover. Where the jack is stored. Locate the end of the cable, it is
more than likely just laying in the bottom of the quarter panel. Now,
while someone is operating the switch, see if you can detect any
movement in the cable. If no movement, then you will need to disconnect
the motor from the cable. I think there is 3 9mm numt holding the motor
housing to the frame of the car. Remove them then you will be able to
see the screws attaching the cable to the motor. Remove them then
operate the motor switch again, if it does not operate, you have a bad
motor. (I have one). If it does operate, then you more than likely
have a bad or jammed cable. Sometimes the motors get weak, but will
still work at least a little bit.

If you think the cable is bad you will need to remove the headliner to
get at the thing. Sitting in the back seat, GENTLY pry the headliner
off at the tip of the rear window. There is about six or eight of those
little plastic retainer pins. Be careful, the cardboard backing will
break. You will also have to remove the rear light. Also not hard.
Once you have the rear of the headliner loose, you will be able to peer
into the opening and evaluate the cable while operating the sunroof, or
having someone else operating it. If you see the plastic moving around,
bad. Indicates the cable has broken. They are not easy to get, but can
in some cases be repaired. The last one I had go bad I just used a
piece of rubber hose and clamped it to the sheath.

If you find you need to remove the cable, you will need to remove the
plastic panel of the lift side "C" piller. It jsut snaps in place and
can be removed once you pull the weatherstripping away from it. Pop
that puppy off and pull out the foam insulation out. You will also find
a piece of cardboard in the rear portion of the roof. Things will be
much easier if it is removed. Remove the rear passenger assist handles
from the roof. There are two long screws hidden behind the plastic trim
strip. Pull the weatherstrip away from the roof in both rear doors.
Very gently pull the headliner down until you expose the rear of the
sunroof. It will probably help to use a couple of clothes pins and
clip it up and out of the way.

Most likely at this point, you will find the plastic sheath has broken.
If you are lucky, you will be able to piece it back together again and
figure out a way to make it strong. It really is a poor design. It
attaches to the rear of the sunroof with two little screws. They must
be removed, and also the small circlip retainer. Once removed, the
whole cable assembly can be removed from the sunroof. It is easier to
pull the rest of the cable into the passenger compartment from the trunk
vice going the other way. Just be mindful of snagging it while you are
pulling it through.

Reinstallation is just the opposite.

Good luck
Ray

> ----------
> From: Finley H. Hall[SMTP:fhhall@mail.lig.bellsouth.net]
> Reply To: fhhall@mail.lig.bellsouth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 10:06 AM
> To: peugeot@padui.org
> Subject: 505/Sunroof
>
> I now have 2 505s with sunroofs that will not operate. Motors
> hum(weakly) but do not move s/r. Need info on the procedure, and
> source
> for the motors, cables or other needed items to repair a 87 and a 88
> Sedan. Regards,fhh
>
>