Re: 505 Turbo Cooling Fans

steve leung (sleung123@juno.com)
Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:34:48 -0700

On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:08:19 -0400 (EDT) davidtowle@lycosmail.com writes:
>At the Rendezvous I got some help from Brian and Steve to solve what I
>thought was a small cooling fan problem, but now that I've looked the
>problem appears bigger and I'm more confused about what does what, so
>here's the situation:
>
>On my 87 turbo 505 SW, it appears I have only one out of three cooling
>fans working properly and have for some time, that shows a good level
>of overdesign! The right side electric fan operates at both low and
>high speed. The left side one works on low speed only, then shuts off
>when the other goes to high speed. Both operate only with the AC on,
>no matter how hot or cold the engine. The solenoid clutch main fan
>works fine when I apply 12 volts with the engine off, but with the
>engine at idle works only about 2% of the time.

If the air gap in the declutchable fan is bigger than spec. You will
still hear a click with engine off and power applied to it but it may not
pull in reliably when engine is running. Another thing to check is
binding of the carbon brush. Make sure the brush is free to move by the
spring behind it. Another thing is to make sure you have a good
connection at the carbon brush and the wire going to it. When in doubt
replace it.

I do not have a turbo 505, never worked on one. According to the elec
workshop manual both fans run together, high or low speed. Low speed is
done by putting both fans in series through relay logic. In your case
you may have found the problem with the bad relay.

Steve

>
>Brian and Steve thought the high speed fan problem was due to a bad
>relay in the relay box in the left fender, and indeed one was icky
>with green goo coming out so I ordered one from the dealer (cheaper
>than a generic one of unknown amperage from a discounter) but don't
>have it yet. Any ideas why the solenoid works at rest but not when
>rotating at idle?
>
>In trying to troubleshoot this problem, I have been unable to figure
>out what switch does what. Can anyone tell me? My thermostat has 5
>thermal switches or indicators coming out of it, one small red plastic
>hex with one wire, one large plastic hex with two wires, one metal hex
>with two wires, one blue plastic rectangular one with booted wires
>(unknown quantity), and a similar red plastic one. Plus the right
>side of the radiator has two wires coming out, but that appears to be
>a coolant level switch. I don't know why there's so many switches
>when the electric fans just seem to run off the AC anyway.
>
>Thanks, Dave Towle

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