Peugeot Re: Poor Used Part Buying Experience

From: consie67 (consie@maine.rr.com)
Date: Sun 24 Feb 2002 - 19:19:31 EST

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    I saw Brian's request, which was very specific, in that he wanted a
    VERY GOOD example of this mirror ONLY. I chose to not resond, as the
    two or three that I have are only in fair condition.

    I think the best way to settle this, is for Peter to refund Brian 1/2
    of the price, since Brian broke the glass and the rest of this unit
    is worthless.

    Mediation guys, you know?
    Chris

    --- In peugeot-L@y..., boz <boz@t...> wrote:
    > Well, I didn't want to have to do this, but for the sake of possible
    > used part buyers on this list (of which I've been a member for many
    > years, by the way), I feel I've got to warn you about a list member
    and
    > his behavior regarding a driver's side mirror I bought from him.
    >
    > I put out a call for a mirror in great shape, no watermarks on the
    > glass. I received an e-mail from Peter McGarvey. He said he had just
    > what I wanted, that the glass and mirror was in good, clean shape
    and
    > the price of $50 was eventually agreed upon. After a couple weeks I
    > received the mirror, just yesterday.
    >
    > Upon removing it from the box I discovered that the glass did indeed
    > have small watermark spots all over it. I wasn't overjoyed by this
    fact.
    > Still, it was in better condition than my own scratched mirror, and
    I
    > decided I could live with it. That was until I picked up the unit
    and
    > discovered that the pivot mount (beneath the accordian rubber boot)
    was
    > very loose. Upon inspection it turned out that a piece of the
    mount's
    > metal was broken and missing, and that the bolt hole threads were
    > stripped which would've enable the tightening of the thing.
    >
    > Still, I thought that perhaps I could somehow use my own mirror's
    old
    > mount and couple it perhaps with this mirror's glass and inner
    workings.
    > I was suddenly getting into a lot of work when it should've been a
    > simple swap. I ultimately decided to simply remove the glass from
    this
    > unit and double-side tape it to my old mirror. Well, when I
    attempted
    > that, the mirror cracked. Figures, huh? I didn't mind too much
    since the
    > glass was not in very good shape anyway.
    >
    > Anyway, I put my old mirror back on my car and e-mailed Peter.
    Explained
    > the entire story and I received an e-mail back from him stating that
    > he'd refund my money if I sent the mirror back, because he figured
    it's
    > best to foster goodwill amongst Peugeot owners. I thought that was a
    > good position and replied that I'd send the mirror back.
    >
    > Well, an hour or two later I get another e-mail from Peter, stating
    that
    > he's thought about the situation more and that he just cannot give
    me a
    > refund. His position is, 'you broke it, you bought it.' Hmmm...I
    can in
    > a way see his point, but then again the mirror glass was indeed
    etched
    > with watermarks, and even more significantly, the pivot mount was
    busted
    > and unfixable which would've meant this mirror would always vibrate
    and
    > wobble once installed. To me, that's a very much faulty, defective
    > part--from the get-go.
    >
    > At the end of the day, this mirror Peter sold me was crap. Now I
    guess
    > he figures to somehow teach me a lesson he's not going to refund my
    > money. I guess that's OK, I can live without that measly $50. But
    > considering how I've been treated in this matter, I feel I had no
    > alternative (after getting nowhere thru e-mail with Peter) but to
    air
    > this 'dirty laundry' on the list.
    >
    > Basically, buyer beware if you're going to buy a used part from
    Peter
    > McGarvey. You just may not receive what you had been expecting, or
    what
    > he's represented as the conditon of the used part. Frankly, that's
    crap
    > treatment from a fellow list member. And that, Mr. McGarvey, is
    what we
    > don't need on this list....not someone like me bringing situations
    like
    > this to the attention of fellow members so they can avoid this BS. I
    > don't feel this affects my reputation in any way.....too bad you
    figure
    > it would. I trust it's yours that's not going to be helped by this.
    >
    > And I reiterate, I have only brought this onto the list as a warning
    > after a few e-mails with McGarvey. He apparently can't see the
    error in
    > his ways of selling crap merchandise to fellow list members, so
    > basically, think twice before buying from him. If I can prevent
    someone
    > else from going through a similar situation I feel I've done a
    service
    > to this list.
    >
    > And I know every once in awhile something like this gets to the
    list. I
    > really didn't want it to go that way, but Peter's unbending attitude
    > drove me to it. His wanting me to put the mirror back into the
    condition
    > it was in (meaning to somehow put an uncracked glass into it!)
    before
    > he'd refund my money, is simply ridiculous. He was probably hoping
    to
    > sell this 'POS' to some other unsuspecting soul if he gets it
    back. The
    > shape that mirror was in made it unusable...whatever. This has
    become
    > tiresome.
    >
    > 'Nuff said....
    > --Brian O.
    > Charlotte, NC

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