Re: NEWS FLASH: -more Peug vs Jap
From: Vanden Berg (larryvan@pclink.com)
Date: Sun 05 Dec 2004 - 22:35:25 EST
MISC THOUGHTS ON JAP QUALITY VS PEUG & OTHERS
I rate the Japanese (Honda Civic in my experience) good on both rattles
and electrics. I rank them below Peugeot in rust prevention, suspension
longevity. and engine durability.
On suspension I tested a few rental cars in Alabama on a particular
railroad track dip at about 50 mph. The Camry, Accord, and Maxima all
totally bottomed out their suspension. I liked the Maxima best of the
three. Did not get a chance to test my Peugeots there but I know they
would have passed with flying colors.
My Civic experienced failure of the camshaft and lifters due to a poor
design on the oil pump gear drive at 60k (not under warranty) so put new
parts in myself. Oil level had never been below full so it was strictly
a design problem due to low oil flow to that area.
Many of the original Acura Legends (86) had lots of rust when the
original paint layer became compromised. Good looking as it came from
the factory for a good JD Powers initial quality survey but not so good
some years later. My Civic died of terminal rust on the unibody.
I've never had a failure of internal engine parts on any of my Peugeot
or Ford products (up to 160k mi.) The Japanese make pretty good
products, but so do many others these days so I just don't need any more
of their bland products.
Larry
91 405 DL
86 505S TD SW
95 Ford Contour SE
01 Mercury Sable LS
>hugo_steincamp wrote:
>My 2000 Honda Civic had some rattles from new. On the other hand, it
>has now done 97,000 miles and nothing has gone wrong with it.
>
>Hugo Steincamp
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>--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Pug NZ" <pug-yahoo@a...> wrote:
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>>HA!
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>>I find it relatively easy to find an old 505 with many miles on the
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>clock that will drive around rattle free, (or at least to adjust a
>few things to make it rattle free).
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>>Jap cars seem to have rattles built in from new.
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>>Or perhaps I am reading it wrong, maybe they were implying that the
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>Toyota engineers had never even realised that there was anything
>unusual about having rattles in a car and were astounded to find a
>car without them???
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