Re: NEWS FLASH: -more Peug vs Jap
From: the505inme (the505inme@yahoo.ca)
Date: Tue 07 Dec 2004 - 11:49:48 EST
OK, maybe Toyota's have some better bits then PEug's, but who cares???
I see 100's of the damn things every day, and they are very very dull
cars.
I would drive a TOyota, but the odds are I would fall asleep while
driving it, or loose it in a parking lot in a sea of other boring
soul-less cars.
FYI Toyota guy, my 505 has been the model of reliablity, and is rust
free!
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "N9TE" <Fujitsu@t...> wrote:
> Japanese vs Peugeot:
>
> My take. I'm a Toyota guy. I'm constnatly amazed at the
> overengineering of their assemblies. If 3 bolts are good enough,
> they'll use 4. Bolts that never see moisture are top quality zinc
> plated flange bolts. Threaded inserts in body panels. I've yet to
find
> a threaded hold in my 505. There's usually a nut on the other end
of
> the bolt.
>
> When Peugeot sets their mind to something, they're as successful as
when
> Toyota does. Styling, handling, interior, etc. Toyotas excel at
things
> "you don't see" where as Peugeot excels at things you do.
>
> Toyotas suppliers are second to none. Yamaha for cylinder heads, N-
D
> for electrical, Nok for seals, etc. Their transmissions are
> bulletproof. Toyota also did not follow Honda's very thin sheet
metal
> specs. So I've never experienced significant rust.
>
> Peugeot mechanicals are "good enough", but not world class.
>
> If I were to say... Peugeot could learn more from Toyota than
Toyota
> from Peugeot. That being said, the Peugeot's I'm familiar with are
80%
> cars and the Toyotas are 85%. Both close enough and both closing
in on
> virtual perfection. However I'm 10 years out on Peugeot technology
and
> a couple out on Toyotas. Perhaps the new Peugeots are much better
than
> old ones - which weren't that bad.
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