Re: NEWS FLASH: -more Peug vs Jap
From: peugeotvoittaja (jarvinenjp@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed 08 Dec 2004 - 01:29:34 EST
I knew that 406 is reliable but I didn't understand it is so
reliable.
quote "Close behind, with 99% reliability, were the Honda Civic,
the CR-V and Jazz, as well as the Mazda 6, Peugeot 406 and 406
Coupe."
It isn't difficult choice what's the next car I'll buy :)
Pasi from Finland
405 SRI 1988
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "hugo_steincamp" <hsteincamp@h...>
wrote:
>
> Not so fast there partner. Read on....
>
> German cars shock in reliability survey
>
> 05/08/2004 07:32
> German cars are among the most likely to develop faults or break
> down, while Japanese and Korean makes were the most reliable,
> according to a survey of British motorists published on Thursday.
>
> Audi, BMW and Volkswagen were all rated poor for reliability in
the
> study by the Consumers' Association.
>
> "German cars have always been expensive, but our survey reveals a
> worrying drop in reliability that makes them look distinctly
> overpriced," said Malcolm Coles, editor of the Consumers'
Association
> magazine Which? whose readers took part in the survey
>
> "Audi, BMW and VW may be the choice of more badge-conscious
buyers,
> but owners of Japanese cars are far less likely to spend time on
the
> hard shoulder or face hefty garage bills."
>
> Least reliable car for the second year running was Audi's sporty
TT
> model. Out of 43 owners with a TT up to 2 years old, 21% reported
> that their car had broken down in the past 12 months.
>
> Next least-reliable was the E-Class from Mercedes Benz, with 16%
of
> the 44 examples in the survey needing attention in the past year.
>
> Among the most reliable cars was Hyundai's Getz, Mazda's 323 and
> Toyota's Corolla and Corolla Verso models.
>
> Close behind, with 99% reliability, were the Honda Civic, the CR-V
> and Jazz, as well as the Mazda 6, Peugeot 406 and 406 Coupe.
>
> The Consumers' Association gathered information on 34 277 cars up
to
> eight years old from Which? readers.
>
> Not agreeing
>
> Brands which dropped from average last year to poor this time
were:
> Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Daewoo and Saab. They joined Citroen, Fiat,
Land
> Rover, Peugeot, Renault, Rover, Vauxhall and VW already in the
bottom
> category.
>
> The manufacturers ranked as excellent this year were: Honda,
Hyundai,
> Lexus, Mazda, Toyota and Suzuki.
>
> Duncan Forrester, media relations manager at BMW UK, said the
> findings don't "correlate with our experience."
>
> "Our history, which relates to 100% of BMW cars, doesn't suggest
that
> reliability and breakdowns are getting worse. On the contrary, we
> find it is improving quite considerably," he said.
>
> Sample sizes in the survey varied widely, from as few as 30 for
the
> Hyundai Getz to 495 for the Ford Focus.
>
> Audi said its reliability figures "have been temporarily low due
to
> an exceptional and unique ignition coil problem which was
rectified
> for production of cars during 2003.
>
> "The widely used 1.8 T engine is one of the affected units, and as
it
> powers all but two TT models and several A4 versions has caused a
> specific downturn for these cars," Audi said in a statement.
>
> AND:
>
>
> Toyota tops fleet reliability survey (03.11.2003)
>
> The most reliable cars in Britain are revealed in a new survey
> covering nearly 800,000 vehicles.
>
> Japanese manufacturers have hammered home their reputation for
> reliability in the exclusive survey carried out by Fleet News, the
> industry leading newspaper for the company car and van industry.
>
> The survey of Britain's biggest contract hire companies reveals
that
> Toyota, Honda and Lexus compete for the top honours in both the
most
> reliable manufacturer and the most reliable model in this year's
> survey.
>
> Toyota and Honda take the top honours in the manufacturer survey
this
> year, with Toyota clinching pole positioning as most reliable
> manufacturer and Honda only just behind. Lexus, the luxury arm of
> Toyota, comes third, while the first German brand to appear, in
> fourth, is BMW.
>
> Mercedes-Benz follows closely, on fifth, followed by Nissan in
sixth,
> Ford in seventh, a good performance for a volume manufacturer, and
> Mazda, a Ford-owned company, in eighth. Rounding off the top-10 is
> Audi in ninth and Mitsubishi in tenth place.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "N9TE" <Fujitsu@t...> wrote:
> > OK. Fine. I give up. I'm not an engineer. Peugeots are
better
> than
> > Toyotas.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pug NZ [mailto:pug-yahoo@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:45 PM
> > To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com; N9TE
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: NEWS FLASH: -more Peug vs Jap
> >
> >
> > Is it good or bad to have more bolts?
> >
> > Peugeot use 3 bolts to hold the motor onto the trans in the XN*
> engines.
> > Once (emphasis on the once, never wanted to touch the thing
again)
> > worked on a Triumph 2.5TC. They used 13 bolts to hold the motor
to
> the
> > trans. Not only that, but lots of them were nuts and bolts, and
they
> > were jammed up hard against the firewall.
> >
> > Speaking as an engineer: if 3 bolts were good enough, but they
used
> 4
> > means that they didn't trust their own calculations.....
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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