RE: Re: Peugeot Back to US by the end of 2007
From: Joseph Ashment (wyofisher@earthlink.net)
Date: Wed 15 Dec 2004 - 00:24:18 EST
simple, if the suppliers can't provide good electronics, use Bosch again,
or just make it in house. Why did Peugeot go to substandard parts
suppliers? To save money? Sounds like a Chevrolet idea to me. I put that
down with their decision to use front wheel drive, and leave Pinninfarina
design...oops!
Joe
> [Original Message]
> From: hugo_steincamp <hsteincamp@hotmail.com>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 12/14/2004 5:24:34 PM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Re: Peugeot Back to US by the end of 2007
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> This edict from PSA to its suppliers doesn't surprise me. Folz and
> the chap who heads the Peugeot division have often made public
> statements about the inferior product coming from suppliers. I
> remember Folz saying that it was hard to convince suppliers of
> electronics that the parts had to more durable than those in a cell
> phone. The 307 is particularly problematic; the supplier of the turn
> signal lever seems to be incapable of coming up with a design that
> works; the electronic control unit has numerous software bugs and
> reboots itself (which results in the headlights turning themselves
> off if they are on - not good at night - and the electronics shutting
> down)
>
> My own experience with the parts for my 505 left me less than
> impressed. If memory serves, two of the three new Valeo alternators
> I installed in my car were faulty.
>
> The quality of the 406 and 607 seem to be quite good by Peugeot
> standards, although I've read some horror stories about both. There
> seems to be too many instances of (a) Peugeot replacing new cars
> because neither the dealer nor the company can not figure out what is
> wrong with the cars being replaced, and (b) major engine failures at
> low mileages. See Peugeot at www.carsurvey.org
>
> Peugeot won't be back in the US by 2007.
>
> Hugo
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> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "peugeotvoittaja" <jarvinenjp@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is preparation for that:
> >
> > "PSA tells suppliers to make better parts
> > Automaker gives its vendors 3 years to fix parts quality
> > PSA/Peugeot-Citroen is embarking on a three-year plan to improve
> the
> > quality of components it gets from its suppliers. "We are not
> > satisfied with the quality of our suppliers," said Jean-Philippe
> > Collin, the group's new purchasing chief. -12/13/2004"
> >
> > It seems that quality (already good on some models like 406 and 607)
> > will get better before US is conquered.
> >
> > Hopefully there is no political tensions between USA and France
> then
> > or comeback will be delayed.
> >
> > Pasi from Finland
> > 405 SRI
> > 309 GT
> > 305 GL
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