Re: Digest Number 1371
From: Bernard Kaye (eviebob@comcast.net)
Date: Wed 24 Mar 2004 - 19:30:32 EST
Contact Les Woods at Peugeotsixohfour@aol.com for Peugeot-Citroen-Renault in
N. Virginia area. He is superb, tell him "Hello from Bernie Kaye." I lived
in N. Va. and used Les, formerly Marcel Motors, in Gaithersburg, Md.
Bernie Kaye, Frisco, TX USA
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Digest Number 1371
There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: R & R 505 fuel pumps
From: "William Heacox" <heacox@cox.net>
2. Haynes Manual for 405?
From: "alanslightom" <alanslightom@mac.com>
3. Re: Haynes Manual for 405?
From: "atikovi" <atikovi@email.com>
4. Re: Haynes Manual for 405?
From: "tjp1974" <tjp74@earthlink.net>
5. Re: wiper blues
From: PEUGPETE@AOL.COM
6. Loy's automotive aka international motors closed
From: biggyg@hotmail.com
7. ecu
From: steven barclay <steven.barclay@landg.com>
8. Re: BIG TROUBLE ZF 4HP
From: "vreap" <bf135@scn.org>
9. Re: wiper blade judder
From: Brian Holm <peugeots@vtlink.net>
10. Re: Loy's automotive aka international motors closed
From: Brian Holm <peugeots@vtlink.net>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:02:49 -0000
From: "William Heacox" <heacox@cox.net>
Subject: Re: R & R 505 fuel pumps
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, RSeidel908@a... wrote:
> My 505 (gas) has been diagnosed as the two fuel pumps in the gas
tank need to
> be replaced. Is that a "do-it-yourself" job, or do I let the shop
do it (for
> $800).
> -Ray S.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
It is a 'D-I-Y' job. I did both of mine on my XN6 wagon in about 3
hours, and I had never done it before. You do indeed have 2 pumps- a
scavenger in the tank (cost 65-80.00 depending on where you buy it)
and a main pump on the chassis, mounted on the drivers side just
forward of the suspension (cost about 200.00, again depending on
where you buy it). Ensure you buy all the copper rings to go with it-
I think 6- when you buy the pumps. Also, the plastic line that
connects the main pump to the accumulator will likely be brittle. If
you kink this line when you try to remove it, you will need to
replace it- I had to. High pressure EFI line will work. When you cut
off the old line, DO NOT nick the fitting barbs, and use the proper
rolled edge hose clamps. If you are doing this on a wagon, you do not
need to drop the tank. Instead, you can pull up the carpet in the
back- yeah, I know, a pain in the tuchas- and you'll find two large
black floor plugs. I think it's the one towards the back is the pump.
Knock out that plug, undo the bung fitting, and pull the scavenger
pump out. By the way, since you're there, change the filter. It's
right there by the main pump, and it isn't difficult at all to do at
this time.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:06:18 -0000
From: "alanslightom" <alanslightom@mac.com>
Subject: Haynes Manual for 405?
Anybody have a line on where to get one? I feel it can be another source of
information for me on my continuing quest for knowledge of the mysteries of
the 405, particularly the Mi16.
Thanks to all in the group.
Alan Slightom
Indianapolis
PS
Yes, my Mi16 is getting better. Took it to an import shop that does Pugs
and
all kinds of things are weird with it. When it is all said and done, I'll
post the
complete run down of the problems. Whoopee!
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:17 -0000
From: "atikovi" <atikovi@email.com>
Subject: Re: Haynes Manual for 405?
I got one from: http://books4cars.com
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "alanslightom" <alanslightom@m...>
wrote:
> Anybody have a line on where to get one? I feel it can be another
source of
> information for me on my continuing quest for knowledge of the
mysteries of
> the 405, particularly the Mi16.
>
> Thanks to all in the group.
>
> Alan Slightom
> Indianapolis
>
> PS
> Yes, my Mi16 is getting better. Took it to an import shop that
does Pugs and
> all kinds of things are weird with it. When it is all said and
done, I'll post the
> complete run down of the problems. Whoopee!
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:03:55 -0000
From: "tjp1974" <tjp74@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Haynes Manual for 405?
There are several editions of Haynes manual for 405. Be sure to get
the early version that only covers from 88 to OCT 92 (puple cover).
If you get the very early version (88-90?)you will miss out the
critical Motronic M1.3 information and if you get the later version
(blue cover) lots of stuff for first generation models are replaced
by later generation of 405 (93-96?) which were not sold in US. Plus
Haynes deleted lots of detailed information. For example, early
version has instruction on how to rebuild 5 speed gearbox,
alternator, starter, and replace sunroof cable but later version all
lacks these information. And puple covered version is much thicker
so I believe it contains at least twice more information on early
model 405 which matters to US owner the most compare to later
edition which contains useless information on later models.
I think your best bet to find the early edition is the ebay. Not US
ebay of course. You will have to look for one in ebay.co.uk (UK
ebay).
tj
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "atikovi" <atikovi@e...> wrote:
> I got one from: http://books4cars.com
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "alanslightom"
<alanslightom@m...>
> wrote:
> > Anybody have a line on where to get one? I feel it can be
another
> source of
> > information for me on my continuing quest for knowledge of the
> mysteries of
> > the 405, particularly the Mi16.
> >
> > Thanks to all in the group.
> >
> > Alan Slightom
> > Indianapolis
> >
> > PS
> > Yes, my Mi16 is getting better. Took it to an import shop that
> does Pugs and
> > all kinds of things are weird with it. When it is all said and
> done, I'll post the
> > complete run down of the problems. Whoopee!
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:20:49 EST
From: PEUGPETE@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: wiper blues
The theory and design of the wiper blades, is for the blades to wipe
across the glass and clear moisture off. They do this by dragging the edge.
The
design of the arm is such to allow the blade to "flop" from one side to the
other to allow for the blade to be dragged. If the arm is not adjusted for
the
blade to sit at a 90% angle to the glass, the blade will drag in one
direction
and try to push in the other. By trying to push, the rubber tries to stick
to
the glass and the power continues, causing the blade to dance on the glass
rather than wipe. The earlier types used on flat glass was simple, because
you only
had one gap to be concerned with, for adjustment. Today's cars have curved
glass, so they use a series of arches to cause the blade to sit flat on the
glass. With each arch, there is more gaps to be conserned with, to allow the
blade
to flop. The combined gaps may be worn and not keeping the blade in a 90%
position, not allowing the blade to flop.
Other areas to look at for proper operation of your wipers is the
linkage, from the motor to the transmission (the post the arm attaches to)
to insure
they are not worn and is properly lubricated. The arm is also adjusted as to
not strike either edge while in operation.
Need further instruction, let me know <;-))
PP
jakkacan@yahoogroups.com, wrote
Hello there Pug fans , I'm the proud owner of a 306 (UK Y-Reg) and was
wondering if anybody has had any trouble with the wipers of their car as
when I
put mine on full they work like a charm but if I put them on intermittent
they
judder quite badly on the downstroke and I'm at a loss as to the cause ?
Does
anybody out there have any ideas as I dont want to change the motor only to
find out its some daft relay !
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:26:47 -0000
From: biggyg@hotmail.com
Subject: Loy's automotive aka international motors closed
Hey Gang,
International motors in VA completely closed their door to Peugeots as
of March 22. I had an oil leak repaired there last week and I still
see a leak.. but they told me they will not even look at it.. they
told me to take it to someone and if it is their fault, they will pay
me back.
So there is absolutely no shop that works on Peugeots in greater
Washington DC area that I know of.
Independent repair has been very difficult to locate for me. I got a
few names and numbers and most of them flat out declined to work on
Peugeots.
I don't have a place to work on them and working on cars on the
street/community parking space something that is discouraged by the
community I live in. What to do?
Anyone wanna prove me wrong?
Gashaw
Gaithersburg, MD
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:22:44 +0000
From: steven barclay <steven.barclay@landg.com>
Subject: ecu
hello, want to check if anyone has the same problem as me regarding my
405 1993 Model..
i was having problems with the diagnois light coming up on my dashboard
and the car cutting out for a milli second and then re-starting and also
on the odd occasion cutting out completly for 5 mins before re-starting
the ecu. did have a look at it & it was water logged... drained all
the excess water from the ecu, then drilled hole at the bottom of the
box that it is kept in to stop the water filling back up... how ever im
still having problems with the car cutting out... i wanted to know if
anyone else has the same problem and whether the ecu has now stained....
(also would like to know what that means)....
also my ecu number is 0 261 200 664 (Bosch 92-93 year of manu) i have
been advised that the later addition on the ecu (year 95) will also work
on my motor the ecu number for that is 0 261 204 123.. the make and
model is the same 1.8 petrol... (has anyone any idea's please ?)
regards
steve.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:38:03 -0000
From: "vreap" <bf135@scn.org>
Subject: Re: BIG TROUBLE ZF 4HP
I'm not positive but if your previous tranny was burned your torque
convertor would also be full of that black nasty stuff associated with
a 4hp gone bad. My tranny rebuilder insisted on having the T.C.
rebuilt at the same time.
I still had some grunge in the governor after the rebuild which caused
it sometimes to not upshift to second when cold, but that cleared up.
Peat
86 505 T Wagon (getting an aux tranny cooler so I'll never have to do
that job again)
85 505 sedan XN6
--- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "the505inme" <the505inme@y...>
wrote:
> So, I found a 4 spd auto tranny from a V6 to replace the burnt one in
> my 86 505 Turbo. We reused the torque converter from the turbo
> tranny of course, and after the tranny from the V6 was all bolted in,
> the car won't move.
>
> In any gear. Period. It did work in the donor car, what the heck
> happened?
>
> Could the torque convertor have failed?
> Ideas please.....
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:19:38 -0500
From: Brian Holm <peugeots@vtlink.net>
Subject: Re: wiper blade judder
The rubber wiper part of the wiper blade is supposed to be dragged, not
pushed, across the glass, flipping over at each change of direction. If
the wiper arm gets twisted, the rubber blade may not flip over, and be
pushed in one direction rather than dragged, causing judder when the glass
is not wet enough.
To correct this problem you must twist the wiper blade back to get it
parallel to the glass. It is springy, so you need to twist quite a bit for
any to take. I use a small adjustable wrench near the outer end of the
arm. Test after each effort to see the effect of your attempt.
If you can't tell whether the blade is flipping, you can stop it in
mid-stroke by turning off the key, and have a good look.
Brian Holm
Parts for Peugeots
At 04:16 PM 3/23/2004, jakkacan wrote:
>Hello there Pug fans , I'm the proud owner of a 306 (UK Y-Reg) and
>was wondering if anybody has had any trouble with the wipers of
>their car as when I put mine on full they work like a charm but if I
>put them on intermittent they judder quite badly on the downstroke
>and I'm at a loss as to the cause ? Does anybody out there have any
>ideas as I dont want to change the motor only to find out its some
>daft relay !
Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
2120 Maple Hill
Plainfield, VT, 05667
802-454-7132, fax -1310
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:52:36 -0500
From: Brian Holm <peugeots@vtlink.net>
Subject: Re: Loy's automotive aka international motors closed
Tom Rogers, Rogers Auto-Marine, in Shadyside, MD, just south of Annapolis
is Peugeot-trained, experienced, honest, and does good work on any
Peugeot. Very reasonable too. Call him
at 301.261.5169. rog.auto@comcast.net
Brian Holm
Parts for Peugeots
At 09:26 AM 3/24/2004, biggyg@hotmail.com wrote:
>Hey Gang,
>
>International motors in VA completely closed their door to Peugeots as
>of March 22. I had an oil leak repaired there last week and I still
>see a leak.. but they told me they will not even look at it.. they
>told me to take it to someone and if it is their fault, they will pay
>me back.
>
>So there is absolutely no shop that works on Peugeots in greater
>Washington DC area that I know of.
>
>Independent repair has been very difficult to locate for me. I got a
>few names and numbers and most of them flat out declined to work on
>Peugeots.
>
>I don't have a place to work on them and working on cars on the
>street/community parking space something that is discouraged by the
>community I live in. What to do?
>
>Anyone wanna prove me wrong?
>
>Gashaw
>
>Gaithersburg, MD
Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
2120 Maple Hill
Plainfield, VT, 05667
802-454-7132, fax -1310
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