Peugeot Re: DAF, rear engined Renaults etc.

From: coupe404 (tippett@pacificcoast.net)
Date: Sat 28 Feb 2004 - 02:54:26 EST

  • Next message: Thomas Pulliam: "Re: Re: DAF, rear engined Renaults etc."

    DAF! I love 'em. There used to be a DAF factory about 60 km from my
    former home in the Netherlands, a bit south of Eindhoven. Now it's
    owned by DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishis and smart ForFours are built
    there. Sad. The mum of a friend of mine in NL had a DAF, an early
    1960s one with the flat twin engine. Get in the car, two gear
    selector, forward and reverse. And the engine always was running at
    about 3800 rpm no matter what speed you were doing. V. cool,
    ingenious thing, the CVT.

    You will find that NSU was making rear engined cars long before the
    Corvair was ever conceived; the little Prinz was around in the early
    to mid fifties.

    About the Caravelle 2+2 (meaning two main seats and two jump seats)
    had the Caravelle body but a permanent hardtop welded to the shell
    and a more accommodating roofline for rear passengers. To me that is
    the Caravelle to have. Style without the wooly chassis. There used
    to be a really nice example in Vancouver in the 1980s, a medium
    blue "S" version owned by a UBC Professor, with its standard R-8S
    drivetrain (i.e. 60 HP 1108 cc engine, rear track rods and
    tachometer!).

    The Dauphine nomenclature is more or less like this:
    R-1090: basic Dauphine, 32 HP, three speed in most cases, 112 km/h;
    R-1091: Dauphine Gordini, 40 HP, 4 speed, drum brakes, 130 km/h;
    R-1092: not sure about that one, probably disc 32 HP manual cars
    though!
    R-1093: Dauphine "1093", special rally version with 58 SAE HP, hot
    cam, twin barrel carb, header, rear track rods (the only Dauphine so
    fitted as stock), optional five speed crashbox (non-synchromesh
    manual), tachometer, 140+ km/h top speed, first ones had drums but
    later ones had discs;
    R-1094: Dauphine with 32 HP and three speed push button automatic,
    disc brakes;
    R-1095: Dauphine Gordini, 40 HP late production with disc brakes and
    four speed automatic.

    So maybe you can see why I'm only keen on the 1093. My Dad had a
    1090 and I had a 1094, plus a friend of mine had a 1091.

    The R-1135 8 Gordini was far better than any Dauphine, with 103 HP,
    1255 cc, hemi head, nice header, twin Weber 40 DCOEs, 5 speed
    synchromesh gearbox, twin shock rear end, built in driving lights,
    twin fuel tanks, lightened and strengthened bodyshell. They were
    fantastic cars, the epitome of the rear engined Renaults. These did
    the 1/4 mile in the high 16s and would top out at about 180 or so
    km/h with the stock gearing (underdrive in fifth). With the Alpine
    kit and 120 HP they'd get into the very low 16s or even high 15s if
    you were good at launching the car, very good for an old school 1300
    cc car. They're the best rear engined Renaults unless you consider
    the Apline A110, that is. And a friend of mine in Vancouver has one
    of each! Crazy guy!

    I sometimes think I might like an 8 Gordini; I almost bought one when
    I was 19 (that makes it 1979). $1200, I waited too long and someone
    trumped me. It's OK, I might have died in that car. The guy who
    bought it was a postman and he cooked the engine not long after
    taking possession. Shortly thereafter I bought my first 404 Coupé
    Injection, which is soooo much nicer than any Renault!

    Anyway, good luck with the collection.

    Mike Tippett
    404 Coupé Injection
    M-B C 230 K
    405

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